Growing Beyond Podcast | Industry Leaders Series EP03 with Gerry Doyle

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Growing Beyond Podcast | Industry Leaders Series EP03 with Gerry Doyle
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Episode Title: Industry Leaders Series

Guest: Gerry Doyle – Chief Executive Officer, Tonkin


Episode Overview

This episode features Gerry Doyle, CEO of Tonkin, a multidisciplinary engineering firm operating across Australia with both metropolitan and regional offices.

Gerry shares a deeply personal and honest journey—from struggling with depression and low emotional intelligence early in life, to becoming a highly empathetic and self-aware leader. His experience shaped a leadership style grounded in understanding people, not just technical performance.


Key Themes & Takeaways:

1. People > Technical Skills

While engineering is technical, success ultimately comes down to people—communication, relationships, and emotional intelligence.

2. What Great Teams Look Like
Gerry follows a simple but powerful framework:

  • Hungry (drive and ambition)
  • Humble (team-first mindset)
  • Smart (emotionally intelligent, not just technically capable)

3. Emotional Intelligence Can Be Learned
Unlike common belief, EQ isn’t fixed. Gerry developed it through lived experience, therapy, and intentional learning—proving it’s a skill anyone can build.

4. Leadership Isn’t One-Size-Fits-All
Gerry challenges the stereotype of the “charismatic CEO.”
Instead, he focuses on:

  • Building strong teams
  • Creating environments of trust and belonging
  • Showing up authentically (not performatively)

5. Psychological Safety is Individual
What makes one person feel safe may not work for another.
Great leaders adapt their approach to individuals, not apply a blanket style.

6. AI Won’t Replace Human Skills
AI will improve efficiency, but:

  • Understanding people
  • Interpreting needs
  • Building relationships
    These remain fundamentally human and critical.

7. Career Growth Evolution
Careers move from:

  • Technical mastery →
  • People leadership →
  • Business and strategic thinking

The biggest growth comes when you lean into the human side of work.

Connect and Follow Gerry Doyle:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerry-doyle/
Website: http://www.tonkin.com.au/

Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction to Gerry Doyle & Tonkin
02:30 – Engineering, regional presence & business growth
08:00 – AI, communication & the human advantage
15:30 – Productivity, leadership habits & boundaries
17:30 – Career journey: from podiatry to engineering
22:00 – Mental health, depression & leadership growth
35:00 – Learning, books & personal development
39:00 – Redefining the “CEO” identity
42:00 – Expectations, pressure & authenticity
50:00 – Psychological safety & high-performing teams
01:01:00 – Leading people through real life challenges
01:04:00 – Final reflections on leadership & impact

Sound Bites / Quotes:
• “I’m not a typical CEO… I can only do it my way.”
• “Depression has been my biggest teacher.”
• “People like dealing with people — they want to be seen and understood.”
• “Not everyone is going to be well put together every day — and that’s okay.”
• “Psychological safety for one person can be unsafe for another.”
• “Leadership is about creating a place where people feel they belong.”

Referenced in This Episode

  • The Four Stages of Psychological Safety – Timothy R. Clark
    https://www.amazon.com/Four-Stages-Psychological-Safety-Inclusion/dp/1523087684
  • Patrick Lencioni – The Ideal Team Player (Hungry, Humble, Smart)
    https://www.tablegroup.com/product/ideal-team-player/
  • Concepts discussed:
    • Psychological Safety
    • Cognitive Diversity
    • Emotional Intelligence (EQ)
    • Neurodiversity in the workplace

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